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- From: bmontgom@morgan.ucs.mun.ca (Byron Montgomerie)
- Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
- Subject: Re: The March Amiga?
- Date: 18 Jan 1996 18:25:40 GMT
- Organization: Memorial University of Newfoundland
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- George Noel (gnoel@morgan.ucs.mun.ca) wrote:
- : >I was commenting on the time you said it would be done in. Where did you see
- : >this mentioned btw?
-
- : On THIS newsgroup had you been reading the messages from someone who was
- : talking directly to Dr. P. K. who said Paula was old technology and was
- : needed to be updated ASAP and that it could be done before they started
- : production on the next installments of A4000ts.
-
- Not everyone reads every message in every newgroup George. :) "Could be done"
- doesn't mean "will be done" or "should be done" or even "it will be done in
- march".
-
- : >You would compare a single chip to a PPC board?
-
- : No, but obviously you would. I was referring to the number of A1200s out
-
- How so? Explain yourself. In lots of detail, wouldn't want to mistake any
- nuance of what you mean. :)
-
- : there. If a company felt there wasn't enough A1200s out there to put out
- : new products (especially hardware) for to get profit, they wouldn't do
- : it. You said the money generated from a new Paula would be insignificant
-
- I said had you been wearing your glasses that the money from selling upgrades
- would not be significant. Money generated from new hardware in new machines is
- a nebulous quantity whether a new paula would be significant or not is not
- determinable.
-
- : >Even if the chip were that inexpensive, sending it off to a technician to
- : >install it would easily triple the price in shipping and labour. (CDN)
-
- : Granted that was just off the top of my head, it would probably be more
- : then that price starting off and I wasn't assuming you had to send it off
- : to a technician to do it (see, basing your opinion on your narrowmind
- : view/experiences) as there are still technicians in town that worked on
-
- Not a lot of people doing surface mount work in town, George. Labour costs
- alone would make it many times as expensive as a 16 bit sound card for the PC.
- You can get sound cards as cheap as $20 CDN soundblaster compatible. Probably
- 8 bit though. It is around $140 CDN for an AWE32. Why not just put in the ISA
- bus and use these cards? Why spend resources developing something that already
- exists? At the very least use the same chips if you want a standard.
-
- : Amigas in the past or if you supply instructions on how to install it to
- : any technician they could do it also if people couldn't do it themselves.
- : Installing one chip is not that expensive at a dealer Byron especially
- : when warranty concerns are in question.
-
- You have no experience with the a1200 and the use of SMD in it.
-
- : >Enough to drag people from machines which already have 16 bit as the low end
- : >standard with 32 bit as a coming standard?
-
- : No, I am talking about new blood, offering the same at a cheaper price. I
-
- Show me the cheaper price and I will be happy.
-
- : bet the Power Amiga will also be 16 bit with options of 32 bit sound also
- : via sound cards so the Amiga community will be pretty even then with the
- : PC community seeing as how we will be using the same BUS.
-
- No one knows yet what the final form of the PPC amiga will be, perhaps in a
- year or so we will have a better idea.
-
- : What are you talking about? Why would someone have to compare a new
- : Amiga to an old one? If it is a new buyer, then who cares about the old
-
- If they don't do that they will compare it with a PC assuming they don't do
- that anyway.
-
- : Many people I know whom have PCs STILL say the Amiga 8 bit sound sounds
- : much clearer thus better then their 16 bit sound card, imagine what it
-
- That kind of thread has been done to death here, please don't start that again.
- Take it up in advocacy.
-
- : Obviously older Amiga users would and should obviously be able to hear a
- : difference should and when the Amiga gets 16 bit sound.
-
- You sound like a preacher saying "16 bit sound is coming, Repent!" :)
-
- : >CDROMs are removeable media if that is what you are after. I guess what you
- : >mean is removeable and writeable media. I didn't say that anyway. I have
- : >mentioned elsewhere what I think AT should consider doing in that department.
-
- : Yeah external SCSI port, which I am not opposed to but the choice of say
- : the ZIP drive for removable and writable media as standard is not so
- : beneficial right now especially in the low end which you and I would be
- : using starting off anyways. I wouldn't mind the external floppy only
-
- I would buy a zip drive if the amiga had a scsi port. I only use floppies for
- games and backing up bits of my hard drive.
-
- : also as long as it was compatible. You indeed were putting down removable,
- : writable media such as floppies for exchanging data from computer to
-
- I wasn't putting down anything, even if I were I doubt the floppy drive would
- care what I thought of it. ;) I am against maintaining the floppy as the only
- alternative boot device to a hard drive. You are too floppy oriented, only
- natural since that is the only medium you really know.
-
- : >Every time I listen to a CD. That is not the point, 16 bit sound takes up room
- : >and games barely use 8 bit. The amiga is not a CD player anyway.
-
- : more then likely where the low end Amiga is going in the future anyways.
-
- Then where is the internal floppy supposed to go? You can't have both in the
- low end.
-
- : Why are you being computer specific? A hard drive is a hard drive no
- : matter what computer you are using it on.. on my hard drive I have Amiga
-
- I think most people would say there is quite a difference between using a hard
- drive on a c64 and using one with a computer. :)
-
- : point pointing out that fact? Because you think it makes me look less
- : because I am smart in using my resources to the fullest and the fact I am
- : using it on an older computer for now you think it doesn't matter? You
- : have too of a narrowminded viewpoint to make your points credible.
-
- Incredible. :) A c64 is only technically a computer at all. The point is that
- you are barely an amiga user at all and not much of a computer user in general.
- You are experienced in running a BBS and know lots of trivia about this and
- that but you don't have much experience with using a computer and even less
- about using an amiga.
-
- : doesn't mean others don't. Again I am not going to further comment as
- : you do not know my current standings with what I do and do not own or do
- : with my computers.
-
- Good, only you would take a comment of mine so much to heart.
-
- : >3 years you had your a1000 and did nothing with it but play old games and
- : >instead used your c64 for everything. Which boggles the mind.
-
- : Byron, you did the same thing with your A1000 and could do little else as
- : you never expanded it past 512k. I did nothing else but play games huh?
-
- I was compiling C programs on that thing, the more fool you. :) I used it
- mainly for a terminal, that is what I bought it for. Just for those
- still paying attention, George is now using the same A1000 I had. Instead of
- adding ram to an obsolete computer I bought another sightly less obsolete
- computer, an a500. After adding a hard drive, extra ram, and an adspeed to it I
- sold it for my a1200 with hard drive. I bought a ram card (4 Megs) for it and
- I contemplating getting another hard drive.
-
- : Little that you know!
-
- Sorry, ran old demos and edited text files. :)
-
- : As for the C64, yes, so what? I still have uses for it, when one cannot
- : go out and buy the latest greatest thing, one has to make due with what
- : they have. Again please do not judge me or everyone else on something YOU
- : wouldn't do.
-
- Latest greatest thing? :) How is life back in 1980 anyway? :)
-
- : Can you not take a hint that this extra dribble you are adding to
- : messages is not wanted here nor have you any right to comment on my
- : personal life on the world internet?
-
- I wasn't aware the fact that your main computer is a c64 entailed your
- personal life. :) I have read more details of people personal lives on web
- pages.
-
- Anyway, it was an apropriate response to a guy berating someone about loyalty
- to the amiga from someone who has never really used one.
-
- Regards,
-
- BM
-
-